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The Prince of Starkhaven?

arrowtail:

I’m going to talk about a certain brother of the Chantry, the Prince of Starkhaven, Sebastian Vael: One of the most disliked and misrepresented Dragon Age companions across all three games. I’m going to talk about Sebastian because I love Sebastian, and I feel like there can never be too much love for him in the world. Never ever. 

The main question this post will be answering is ‘Why would Sebastian make a good prince?’ Obviously a nice person =/= a good ruler, right? So I’ve been looking through banters and conversations and chosen a few to pick apart.

[Disclaimer: Everything in this post is obviously based around my own opinions. If you dislike Sebastian already (and you’re not open to a new perspective), I wouldn’t recommend reading this. Some of my comments may also be considered Aveline-critical and Anders-critical. I’m posting a warning now before someone bites my head off. But don’t worry, this post isn’t about that.]

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Stop the idea that…

lypreila:

friendofthefugitive:

  • Fenris is quick to anger and is some sort of cruel, hate-filled – raging character that just despises everything
  • That Fenris hates affection – seriously, did you see that end game kiss?
  • Fenris hates every single mage he comes by with a burning passion – because he doesn’t. Listen to his banter with Bethany, especially in Mark Of The Assassin and Legacy.
  • Anders tormenting of him is justified or that Fenris is the one to provoke it. All I can say about that is: listen to their banter, listen to their inflections
  • Along the line of banter – Fenris only calls Anders an abomination once
  • Fenris is broody and perpetually pissed about everything – HE SMILES, LAUGHS, JOKES, and is kind to those who are kind to him.
  • That Fenris hates all of Hawke’s companions – he calls them ‘friends’ all the time (including Anders)

START SPREADING THE IDEA THAT

  • Fenris is a very calm, controlled character
  • Fenris is pretty open about his relationship with Hawke. He wears their crest, a ribbon, says “I am yours” when traveling around, openly shows his jealousy (especially in MOA)
  • Fenris and Anders got off on the wrong foot and they stayed on that foot. Nothing will change that – but just because he doesn’t get along with Anders doesn’t make him a monster.
  • Fenris is smart – smart enough to know when to hold his tongue and when to express his opinion. Honestly, he gives his opinion rather freely and does so with unflinching honesty
  • He is an abuse survivor and because of that he is still coping and may be easily triggered. He’s been hardened because of it.
  • Fenris is a polarizing character, and because of that, most people either love him or hate him – and that’s okay!

Also, keep these in mind;

  • Fenris is not an alcoholic.  We see him drink all of what… twice? In game, and he exhibits none of the behaviors of an alcoholic. 
  • Fenris is a man who can admit he is wrong.  He is not afraid to say ‘I was mistaken.’  This may not be in any canonical dialogue or anything, but it seems obvious to me, especially regarding certain Mage Hawkes, or Bethany, or when Hawke hires Orana instead of making her a slave or letting her wander off into the wild blue yonder, or when he betrays Hawke in the Fade.
  • Fenris leaving Hawke was for the good of both of them.  He was emotionally mature enough to recognize that he couldn’t handle a relationship at that moment, and backed away to give them both time to come to terms with what happened.
  • Fenris is very aware that he hurt a romanced Hawke, and does not try to excuse himself from the blame.
  • Any anger he has towards Anders come act 3 is understandable, considering that Anders calls him ‘less a man than a wild dog’.  This is exceptionally awful for Anders to do, considering that Denarius called Fenris his little wolf, literally gave him that name.  Anders basically just echoed Denarius there. This is kind of ooc for Anders, but that’s another post.
  • Fenris speaks 3 languages.  I mean, damn.
  • He struggles to improve himself, even starts learning to read.  It seems as though he is all about making himself a better person than he was.
  • FENRIS POSITIVE DOES NOT MEAN ANDERS NEGATIVE
  • ANDERS POSITIVE DOES NOT MEAN FENRIS NEGATIVE

I can’t stress those last two enough.  I mean, really.  The two are not mutually exclusive.

Seriously, just, let me see some Fenris positivity. 

Stop the idea that…

friendofthefugitive:

  • Fenris is quick to anger and is some sort of cruel, hate-filled – raging character that just despises everything
  • That Fenris hates affection – seriously, did you see that end game kiss?
  • Fenris hates every single mage he comes by with a burning passion – because he doesn’t. Listen to his banter with Bethany, especially in Mark Of The Assassin and Legacy.
  • Anders tormenting of him is justified or that Fenris is the one to provoke it. All I can say about that is: listen to their banter, listen to their inflections
  • Along the line of banter – Fenris only calls Anders an abomination once
  • Fenris is broody and perpetually pissed about everything – HE SMILES, LAUGHS, JOKES, and is kind to those who are kind to him.
  • That Fenris hates all of Hawke’s companions – he calls them ‘friends’ all the time (including Anders)

START SPREADING THE IDEA THAT

  • Fenris is a very calm, controlled character
  • Fenris is pretty open about his relationship with Hawke. He wears their crest, a ribbon, says “I am yours” when traveling around, openly shows his jealousy (especially in MOA)
  • Fenris and Anders got off on the wrong foot and they stayed on that foot. Nothing will change that – but just because he doesn’t get along with Anders doesn’t make him a monster.
  • Fenris is smart – smart enough to know when to hold his tongue and when to express his opinion. Honestly, he gives his opinion rather freely and does so with unflinching honesty
  • He is an abuse survivor and because of that he is still coping and may be easily triggered. He’s been hardened because of it.
  • Fenris is a polarizing character, and because of that, most people either love him or hate him – and that’s okay!

atomicpen:

tarysande:

janiemcpants replied to your post:

Hello! I hope you don’t mind me asking, but I was…

The entire fact that Varric finds Sebastian boring is odd to me. Sure, he might be dull NOW (even though he isn’t), but his past should appeal to him, right? What sensational writer could resist a prince in exile with a mysterious, checkered past?

To say nothing of the brutally murdered family, the search for justice (or vengeance), the ability to cling to faith… to see good in a world that’s done its best to heap shit upon shit upon shit…

I sometimes wonder, and this is a wacky theory that may hold no real weight, whether there’s something about Sebastian that actually makes Varric deeply uncomfortable and that’s why he retaliates and dislikes the way he does. As a kind of armor? Or defensiveness?

I mean, when you think about it, Varric and Sebastian actually have a lot in common. They’re youngest sons of important families (merchant and nobility, but still; Varric’s family were noble in Orzammar). They’re both archers. They’re both rogues. They’ve got weird family relationships and dynamics going on. They actually both really do enjoy helping people. Depending on how one untangles the mess of the DA2 timeline, it’s possible they’re actually closer in age than, say, Varric and Hawke. They’re also the characters who’ve spent the most time in Kirkwall, and have the closest connections there, and the strongest ties.

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I tried to put this in a reply and immediately went over the word limit. Story of my life

Ahem.

But. While I completely agree with all this, I will say that listening to the actual in-game intonation of that particular banter, it seems like Sebastian is sort of… coyly saying it. Being truthful, yes, but… not revealing everything all the same. And also add to the fact that Varric more than likely does find Sebastian’s past very interesting. And probably very odd that he would be so… up front about it. I almost feel like Varric is jealous that Sebastian’s come to terms with (metaphorical) demons that he most definitely hasn’t. Despite the fact that Sebastian’s got a lot of other things to work through and come to terms with/own up to, but Varric might not… even see that? 

Perhaps he’s hung up on the fact that this other person, who really is so very much like him in probably far too many ways, has been able to deal with issues that Varric hasn’t been able to–maybe never even tried? Even the ones he knows he should, that hang around his neck like an albatross–and it just stirs this… negative sentiment?

Why would Sebastian reveal all these mistakes about himself and his past readily when asked about it, when Varric doesn’t? Why would Sebastian just simply tell the truth about those things, when Varric doesn’t? Why would Sebastian try to move on from his past, all the while acknowledging it and the mistakes he made, when Varric doesn’t?

Sometimes I feel like this is a case of Varric looking at Sebastian and seeing a mirror of himself, except it’s the person he could have been, if he’d chosen a different path, even though he enjoys what he does (because there is no doubt that Varric immensely enjoys what he does), he also wants to have chosen that other path. Either that, or he wants Sebastian to have not chosen that other path and not inadvertently caused Varric to feel bad about his own life decisions. Or maybe both.

do you have any headcanons regarding fenris’s earlier days with hawke’s group? like maybe the first time he went to the hanged man with them, or the first he started trusting among them etc.? :D

glowyelfboyfriend:

Oh man yes yes yes

  • So I imagine the first few times he accompanies Hawke he is very stiff, very ‘professional’ you know? He feel indebted to Hawke and goddamn if there is one thing Fenris is good at doing its being a bodyguard and killing some guys. He’s worked with others in his time away from Danarius and understands that different people work and go about things differently too so he’s pretty reserved and observant to try and get the lay of the land as it were. 
  • The first two-ish times Fenris works with the crew he takes his leave as soon as Varric or Hawke call for drinks at the Hanged Man because it seems a bit personal and he doesnt want to intrude or overstay his welcome. But by the third time Varric insists and offers to put Fenris’ drinks on his tab (which Fenris declines, of course, but the gesture is appreciated) so he finally goes with them and after a few drinks actually loosens up enough to let some of his dry humor out and finds that these people actually seem to enjoy his company.
  • I feel like for the first phase of the crew getting to know Fenris they would assume that he wants privacy and distance and they try not to bother him outside of when Hawke wants to get him to tag along on things. I think Fenris would be a bit shy about approaching them, having had limited experience with casual friendships, but would eventually just start showing up at the Hanged Man or whenever to seek them out, by that point they realize that he actually really does wanna be around them.
  • I also think Fenris would be hyperviligant and cautious around the crew for quite a while, it would ease off slowly, slower than even he wants. He trusts them in battle, but for a long time is suspicious about their questions or motives (damn like someone gets him something and he side eyes them for a week trying to figure out what thats supposed to -mean-) but I think he would desperately want to be able to let go of that and just trust them and feel like a part of the group and for a long time its a frustrating tug of war in his head until he finally feels it happening naturally. 

aallenwalker:

I know Grumpmeister Fenris is a popular characterization but consider these canon Fenris facts:

-Fenris is a nerd who laughs at Hawke’s dumb jokes

-Fenris is very eloquent when speaking, rarely uses contractions, and swears like, once

-Fenris is an introvert

-The very first time Hawke flirts with him, he’s awkward and shy

-”If I seem bitter, it is not without cause”

-Varric once asked Fenris what he did in his old mansion all day, and Fenris claimed (completely deadpan) that he dances through the place.

-Actually he makes a lot of jokes in banter. They’re just very deadpan.

-This one is a favorite:

Fenris: I thought all dwarves had beards. Where’s yours?
Varric: I misplaced it, along with my sense of dwarven pride and my gold-plated noble caste pin.
Fenris: I thought maybe it fell onto your chest.

Oh and this one:

Varric: You know, if you need advice on how to lay low I can give you some.

Fenris: Being short would make for an excellent start, I suspect.

-Fenris plays cards regularly with Varric and Donnic

Fenris: I disavow any knowledge of gambling occurring in my house.

-seriously just read his banters with Aveline. 

-He has a lot of snark:

Carver: You’re very different from other elves.
Fenris: Oh? You know them all?

-He ends up being rather fond of Bethany, if she survives.

-Also this, in regards to the Qun:

Fenris: I didn’t escape one form of slavery only to become slave to myself.
Isabela: Er, what does that mean?
Fenris: I’m… not sure. But it sounded profound, didn’t it?

Idk where I was going with this

yay Fenris!

corseque:

ok everybody has probably already caught this by now, but I wanted to write it down –

You have to judge the mayor of Crestwood for pretty much the same thing that Solas is responsible for (albeit on a much smaller scale). I couldn’t have written a closer parallel if I tried – the mayor, in a position of authority, made the decision to unilaterally kill many innocent people in order to stop something he believed to be more terrible from happening (eta: and both were, perhaps, attempts to specifically stem the spread of the Blight – thank you for catching that, @rederiswrites!). Then living with guilt for years, all those deaths on his hands, wondering if he made the right call, until finally the truth was revealed.

Where it gets interesting is when Solas reacts to the Mayor’s punishment. And his reactions are almost the complete opposite of all the other companions.

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Solas seems to be the only person who actively empathizes with the mayor. He thinks the mayor deserved exile, is neutral about imprisonment, and he is the only one to disapprove of a beheading. 

That Solas would approve of a betrayer being exiled away from his people is interesting to me, especially knowing his worst fear (“dying alone”) and hearing the conversation with Varric about the Man on the Island. I wonder if these are the same punishments he would give himself. 

Anyway, I get a kick from all the people in the comments saying that they just felt sorry for the mayor having to make a choice like that…  does that go for Trespasser as well?


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